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READ THIS FIRST: The following is an article about the Gawainan language. This article is NOT necessary information. Even if you are creating a Gawainan character, you do NOT need to read this article. This article is only for those of who are interested.

The Gawainan Language

The people of Gawain have their own national language, which is technically spoken by the majority of the population. For the sake of keeping things simple, you can ignore this national language during role-playing and have Gawainan characters speak in English. This way you don't have to posses any understanding of the Gawainan language to role-play in Gawain. However, if you'd like to use the Gawainan language during role-playing for additional realism and creativity, then please feel free to do so.

The Gawainan language is identical in all aspects to Earth's German. Therefore, if you know enough German, you can give your Gawainan characters extra depth by having them speak partially or entirely in German. If you don't need non-German speakers to understand your characters' speech, then you don't have to provide translations in English, though, you will need to provide translations if you want non-German speakers to understand the dialog.

Remember, even the occasional use of a single word or phrase can make role-playing more interesting and entertaining. You don't need to have your character speak in nothing but German to make good use of the language. Simply being able to greet other characters, use a particular saying here and there, and speak words of significance is more than adequate. Fluency is not at all a requirement to have fun with German in role-playing.

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Post by Guynio »

I'm Dutch, my country lies next to Germany, and thus I speak a fair word of German. Would it help if I put down some basic German lines here?
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That would be very helpful, thank you.

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Alright, here goes

German - English
Ja - Yes
Jawohl - Yes sir or Affirmative, something in that area.
Nein - No
Guten Morgen - Good morning
Guten Mittag - Good afternoon (Though when saying hello to someone during the day, it's better to say "Guten tag")
Guten Abend - Good evening
Guten Nacht - Good night (Like, when you're going to sleep, it's not hello in the night =P )
Hallo - Hello
Wie geht's? / Wie geht es dir / Wie gehen es Sie?? - How are you?
Gut, danke, und mit dir? - Good, thanks, yourself?
Slecht / nicht gut - Bad / not good
Tschüs - Bye!
Auf Wiedersehen! - See you later
Wo gehst du hin? / Wo gehen Sie hin? - Where are you going? (The Sie-version is if you're speaking to a high person, like a king. And the Sie has to be capitalized)
Was machst du? / Was machen Sie? - What are you doing? (Same goes for this one, and the next ones...)
Warum machst du das / Warum machen Sie das? - Why are you doing that?
Warum gehst du da hin? / Warum gehen Sie da hin? - Why are you going there?

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Aber - but
Oder - Or
Ich bin - I am
Du bist - You are
Er ist - He is
Wir sein - We are
Ihr sein - you are
Sie sein - They are, you are when you're talkin to a high person, like a king
Ich habe
Du hast
Er hat
Wir haben
Ihr haben
Sie/Sie haben - all forms of to have. I have, you have, etc.
Kaufen - To buy (Note: You say the äu like "Oi")
Ich kaufe - I buy
Ich woll gern ein -Gegenstand- käufen - I would like to buy a -item-, please
Verkaufen - To sell
Ich verkaufe - I sell

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Ich - I
Mir / mich - me
Du / dir / dich - You
Er / sie / es - He / she / it
Wir - we
Ihr - You (plural, as in "You three")
sie / Sie Them/they for sie, the capitalized Sie is when you're talking to a high person, like a king
Mein - My
Dein - Your
Sein, Ihrere - His, her
Unsere - Our
Eure - Your, plural
Sein - Their, your when you're talking to a high person, like a king
Wer - Who
Was - What
Wann - When
Wo - Where
Wie - How

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(Gott)Verdammt! - (God)Damnit
Halt deine Fresse! - Shut up!
F*ck you! - Fick dich!
Go to hell - Fahr zur Helle
I don't give a f*ck - Das ist mir furgezal!
F*ck off - Gehe dir ein Wichsen

Other curse words - Schwein(hund), Arschgeige, Arschgesicht, Arschloch, Blöde Fotze, Ficker, Horst, Hurensohn, Schwanzlutscher, Schlampe, Missgeburt, wichser

1 - 20 =
Ein(s) (If you want on item, for example, you say "Ich woll ein Item", but when you're counting, it's eins)
Zwei
Drei
Vier
Fünf
Sechs
Sieben
Acht
Neun
Zehn
Elf
Zwölf
Dreizehn
Vierzehn
Fünfzehn
Sechzehn
Siebzehn
Achtzehn
Neunzehn
Zwanzig

Oh, and for grammar, all ITEMS need to be capitalized. Like a chair, which is ein Stühl in German, needs to be capitalized, like I just did.
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Post by RabidFox »

That is a lot of very valuable resources. Thank you for your contributions to this thread. If you'd like to post anymore resources for German in the future, feel free to do so here.

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RabidFox wrote:That is a lot of very valuable resources. Thank you for your contributions to this thread. If you'd like to post anymore resources for German in the future, feel free to do so here.
Lol, if I keep on doing that, the people will know the entire German language and grammar in no time =P

EDIT: I'll just Edit any additions into my original post, so it'll be just one, big list.
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Hello. Let me help you a little bit. A few words are wrong. (Note: I'm german ^^)

German - English
Ja - Yes
Jawohl / (Something like "Yes, Sir!"
Nein - No
Guten Morgen - Good morning
Guten Mittag - Good afternoon (It's better, when you Say "Hello" or "Guten Tag" ('Good day') at afternoon.)
Guten Abend - Good evening
Gute Nacht - Good night (Use it, when you go to sleep. It's not like "Hello" at night.)
Hallo - Hello
Wie geht's? ("soft" slang)/ Wie geht es dir?/Wie geht es ihnen? ("Sie" form) - How are you?
Gut, danke und mit dir? - Good, thanks, yourself?
Schlecht / nicht gut - Bad / not good ('Sch' in the german language sounds like 'sh')
Tschüss - Bye!
Auf Wiedersehen! - See you later
Wohin gehst du? / Wo gehen Sie hin? - Where are you going? (The Sie-version is if you're speaking to a high person, like a king, ore a person you met the first time/you don't know longer. And the Sie has to be capitalized(<-Only in letters!!))
Was machst du? / Was machen Sie? - What are you doing? (Same goes for this one, and the next ones...)
Warum machst du das / Warum machen Sie das? - Why are you doing that?
Warum gehst du da hin? / Warum gehen Sie da hin? - Why are you going there? (Not hinen. This word doesn't exist)
Aber - but
Oder - Or
Ich bin - I am
Du bist - You are
Er ist - He is
Wir sein - We are
Ihr sein - you are
Sie sind - They are, you are when you're talkin to a high person, like a king, or you met the first time/you don't know longer
Ich habe - I have
Du hast - You has
Er hat - he has
Wir haben - we have
Ihr haben - you have
Sie/Sie haben - all forms of to have. I have, you have, etc.
Kaufen - To buy ("käufen" isnt a word)
Ich kaufe - I buy
Ich möchte bitte gern ein/einen -Gegenstand- kaufen (with "please")/Ich möchte gern ein/einen -Gegenstand- kaufen (without please) - I would like to buy a -item-, please
Verkaufen - To sell
Ich verkaufe - I sell
Ich - I
Mir / mich - me
Du / dir / dich - You
Er / sie / es - He / she / it
Wir - we
Ihr - You (plural, as in "You three")
sie / Sie - Them/they for sie, the capitalized Sie is when you're talking to a high person, like a king, or a person you don't know/ you don't know longer
Mein - My
Dein - Your
Sein, Ihr - His, her
Unsere - Our
Eure - Your, plural
Sein - Their, your when you're talking to a high person, like a king
Wer - Who
Was - What
Wann - When
Wo - Where
Wie - How
1 - 20 =
Eins
Zwei
Drei
Vier
Fünf
Sechs
Sieben
Acht
Neun
Zehn
Elf
Zwölf
Dreizehn
Vierzehn
Fünfzehn
Sechzehn
Siebzehn
Achtzehn
Neunzehn
Zwanzig

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So remind me, why am I making the German lists, while there's a German on the forum? XD

And I know, I actually got a 5 out of 10 for German, which isn't even enough to pass it >_> And as you probably noticed, I fail at Umlauts. And other random words such as Hinen xD
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Post by Infrared »

I'm new in this Forum. Google show me this threat, when I was looking for something. I saw this list and thougt: I could help you. I won't play here (cause my english is VERY terrible :/) but i want to help you with German.

If you need some words or sentences in German, I can translate it. I'm only here to help you. Pleasy forgive me for that.

P.S.: German is very difficult for german people too. I hate this language, but i have to live with that XD

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Re: Gawainan Language

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The accents in the previous posts have been mangled by our migration from phpbb2 to phpbb3. Is there anyone that could go through the lists and fix them? I don't know German, so I don't know what the accents are supposed to be. Perhaps if you have some extra time, you could edit your post, Guynio? Thanks if you can, but it's no problem if you can't.

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Well, the problem is, my keyboard's acting weird, and if I press the ' or ", it already puts them down, I can't get them on top of the letters =P But I'll have Word help me out in a min.
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I have to say just one thing Guynio. Something I remembered from my years in German class. Good Afternoon is Guten NachMittag.

Mittag is noon, Nach means after, NachMittag means afternoon. =3

I'm not nitpicking or anything, just trying to help contribute. ^^
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Although it's not really important in a text based RP, proper pronunciation is as follows:

German Letter(s) = English Sound
W = V
V = F
S = Z
Z = Ts
Ei = Long I
Ie = Long E
J = Y
Ss = S
R = Slightly rolled R for more proper accent
Ch = K/Sh/Hiss*
Sch = Sh
I = Short I (Ih)
E = Short E (Eh)
Ih = Long E (As in Ihr = ee-r)
Au = Ou
Eu = Oi
St = St (The S is not pronounced as a Z in this combination, It is used normally)

*The pronunciation of the Ch combination is typically based on your location in Western Europe and Germany. The hiss sound is made by placing your tongue on the roof of your mouth, forcing air over it. The sound slightly mimics a cats hiss if you have trouble understanding my instructions.

-Other Vowels-
A = Ah
U = Long U
O = Oh

-Umlaut Vowels-
ä (Alt+0228) = Long A
ö (Alt+0246) = Oo
ü (Alt+0252) = Long U

If you don't wish to use Alt Codes, you can mimic the Umlaut characters by simply adding an "e" after the original character, i.e. ö = oe.
Note: Two consecutive O's as in "oo" do not create the normal English "Oo" sound. It is still pronounced as a single, "Oh". i.e. Boat = Boot in German, but still pronounced "Boat".

A few Examples
Spelling = Pronunciation


Ich habe eine Eis (I have [an] Ice Cream) = [Ih-sh/k/hiss] [h-ah-b-eh] [I-n-eh] [I-z]
Wie gehts denn? (How's it going?/How are you?) = [v-ee] [g-eh-(Silent H)-t-z] [d-eh-n]
Ich bin ein Berliner. (I am a citizen of Berlin) = [ih-sh/k/hiss] [b-ih-n] [i-n] [b-er-l-ih-n-er]

Non-European Languages in German typically are derived from the country they originated, adding an "isch" as the end of it. I.e. Japanese = Japanisch.

This can be used to easily identify languages in RP. I prefer things like Edwinisch, Gawainisch, Domisch, ect, as names for RP languages in German/Gawain.

I really hoped this helped you guys better understand how things are spoken. If not, at least I tried.
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